So now I have a few characters under my belt. I know Axel is the next on the Oz family list, but tbh I don’t feel like doing him yet. Pashet is such a cutie pie and she loves Axel, how could I steal her man!? So that leaves quite a few characters left to choose from, but since Dorian seems like Kyrie in terms of personality, I’m going to go ahead and pick Robin Hood.
I learned that OZMAFIA!! has this utterly inane mechanic that doesn’t play the entirety of the route the first time you play it. I noticed while doing the other endings I saw other scenes, but I chalked it up to different ending scenes. No, apparently there is content locked behind the second playthrough.
Literally the expression I made after I read that.
HOW IS THAT A GOOD IDEA
HOW
I’m not rereading those crappy scenes over and over. I’m hitting the skip button until I see new material. And if it keeps cutting in and out of the story, there’s no immersion. So why would you ruin your first playthrough with missing scenes?
So, just for Robin Hood, I replayed it, and replayed it, and replayed it, just to see how much extra there was and if it fixed my main complaint, which was the fade to black.
SPOILER ALERT — from here on is spoilers, read at your own risk (truly though, a good story is good whether you know what’s going to happen or not imho)
So Robin Hood mentions he has a wife. He then dodges any other questions about her.
My first thought — “She dead. She’s sooooo dead. Bye and bye. Ashes to ashes dust to dust.”
She’s uhh…. not dead…ish….
Man, I should have known that mask hid something creepy! It’s a common visual device in film — masks and gloves are for characters hiding something.
So what’s he hiding?
HIS DEAD-ISH WIFE BEING KEPT ALIVE IN A HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER GLASS COFFIN THINGIE
She was shot on their wedding day and his medical skills couldn’t save her life completely, so he keeps her “asleep” in that thing until he can figure out how to save her life. We can infer from Hamelin’s story that he is the one responsible. In any case, they talk and Fuka realizes that her love will never amount to anything.
I… am actually okay with this. It’s a beautifully tragic story, and the idea that the main character doesn’t get with one of the men in the game is both intriguing and different.
Of course, this doesn’t actually happen.
He meets her in her cabin. He asks if she loves him, and she says she does, of course. And he tells her he loves her too. She asks about his wife, but he tells her not to worry about it and takes off his wedding ring.
He gives her some sort of drug or aphrodisiac and has sex with her.
It is very difficult for me to express the feelings I had after reading that. I guess I’ll just quote what I told Strawbarely There after I read it:
I am just… what in the fucking hell is this bullshit
There was no romance whatsoever because the entire time he’s all “I love my wife and my wife only”
And then he fucking DRUGS HER AND FUCKS HER
The drug, the drugging of her. Let’s set aside the fact that not a single time he ever showed any romantic affection and focus on this:
He knew it was her first time.
Instead of giving her the tenderness she deserved for her first time, he drugs her because girls like her are “late bloomers” and “hesitant”.
He was only concerned with his carnal pleasure. For a girl’s first time, she doesn’t need the big guns. She needs to feel loved and appreciated and special. Save the kinky shit for later.
He knows she loves him and took advantage of that.
How disgusting.
D I S G U S T I N G
I feel sick to my stomach now.
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD FUCKING IDEA FOR A FUCKING ROMANCE GAME
WHO?
CAN YOU COME OVER SO I CAN SLAP SOME SENSE INTO YOU?
Because nothing, and I mean nothing can go back from that.
I’ve seen others say it’s subjective.
What part of that screencap is subjective? Second of all:
She has marks BENEATH HER CLOTHES
Let us look at Fuka’s character design:
The game explicitly says they’re beneath her clothes. Look at how long that skirt is. How her chest is covered. There’s not a lot of skin showing. The marks are beneath those clothes. That means they’re deep into the intimate-skin-o-meter. That’s not even mentioning how hickeys are created in the first place.
Second of all, this game does fade to black at every opportunity. Just because you didn’t read “He put his thingie inside me ooh god it’s so big” doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
But he says, explicitly “A drug to open your mind a bit. Girls like you are hesitant late bloomers.”
Come the fuck on, now. I love otoge but I’m not going to sit there and act like everything is gold and rainbows. It’s because I love otoge that I am so pissed off by this. Because I know it can be better.
Shit, couldn’t this have been a hurt/comfort route where his wife is dead, he can’t let go, and she helps him heal and get over the death of his wife? No, we get freaky ass Frankenstein Snow White in glass coffin and drugs to induce sexual relations. Fuck that noise. That’s the sort of shit that gives otoge a bad name.
Anyway, he steals a gun from the Oz estate and goes to his wife to cut off her life support because after he takes his revenge against Hamelin he won’t be allowed back. Fuka convinces him not to. Time passes. His wife wakes up and tells Fuka to pull the plug so she can die in peace. Robin Hood and her have a last moment. She gives Fuka her blessing.
At her funeral, only Manboy and Dorian are there. He throws the ring in the grave, saying he’s burying his love for her with it. (What the fuck? Like, you are allowed to love more than one person in your lifetime, you know? What does it matter if he’s giving up his love at that moment? Because you know what that means — now he’s free to love Fuka)
And after the funeral, Fuka notes that despite the sadness, she finds one thing to be happy about. Really? REALLY, FUKA? At least she acknowledges she shouldn’t be thinking that. Why even think it in the first place? What purpose does that serve in the narrative other than to make Fuka look like a jackass?
Robin Hood asks if she still loves him. She says she does. He references a conversation I didn’t touch upon earlier, but it’s about how your pupils dilate when you love someone. He tells her to look at his eyes. Fuka is stupid as usual, so he pecks her on the lips and laughs when she’s stunned.
The ending is romantic blah blah but how the hell can I like it after what happened? Even though they joke about how horrible a person he is?
Oh, but there’s stuff left out, remember? So this was my first playthrough, now I get to go deeper into this shit because I’m a woman of my word.
The additional scenes are him talking to his wife. there’s a couple of cute ones that involve the side characters, but it’s mostly him telling his wife about his day. He talks about Fuka, but mostly about how he wants her to wake up so he can be with her again.
And we get a scene after that scene. He says, “… sound asleep. Maybe the drug worked too well.” I suppose that’s the line that makes things seem subjective. I disagree. She notes in the morning she has marks either way. Why save something like that for the second playthrough? In all honesty if I wasn’t reviewing this I would have stopped after that scene in question and not gone back to him at all.
In the second ending he doesn’t really love her at all, period.
Ugh. What was the worst one before this? Hamelin, being a psychotic killer? In his quest for revenge and his refusal to let his wife go, and his obsession with her, using Fuka for personal gain — yeap, he’s a giant asshole. Hamelin is obviously mentally ill, so that’s not an excuse, but it’s also something he can’t help. Robin’s decisions are all made in full consciousness.
The tragedy of Robin Hood is his obsessiveness. He should have stayed a tragic character, and had no romance element at all to his story.
Furthermore, in all the extra scenes he talks about how much Fuka resembles his wife. At the end of the first ending, they at least try to shoehorn a love story into it. The second is Fuka being the eternally innocent “I’m going to wait for you” archetype that is admittedly fitting with her character, but still not a good or healthy romance. I do write and read “twisted” sorts of romance stories, but the key is always the heroine. She’s either as messed up as the hero, or knows and acknowledges their relationship isn’t healthy. Fuka isn’t experienced enough (or perhaps, doesn’t remember enough of her past) to realize this, so it all crumbles apart.
And as a final note, the extra scenes don’t fix the “fade to black” problem.
I think I’m going to do Scarlet next. I need a cute story to make up for this. Shorty looks like he has a cute story to tell. Please god not another twisted romance I can’t take another
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In hindsight, him saying that speaks of experience and how he lost his wife, but in general I found this line funny. Fuka just charges ahead in the middle of the street without looking both ways.
Pashet. 
She doesn’t hold back at all. Last line aside (I don’t really like it when society implies men can’t have feelings), she brings some much needed bitter medicine. Everyone acknowledges and mentions that Robin Hood needs to get over the death of his wife, but no one says it as bluntly, aside from Kyrie, but Kyrie’s personality is that he wants things to go well only for Kyrie and Robin Hood’s well-being is included in that. Caramia’s response to her insult made me chuckle a bit so I included it too.
Oh yeah, I read this and its variations for like 90% of the story and I’m supposed to believe he somehow ~truly~ loves her.
Maybe if you’re super young and don’t understand things like that yet, or haven’t seen examples of adults being stuck in horrible relationships like that, seeing first hand how damaging it is. In that case, you’ll see eventually, take it from this Showa era writer.
Though I do admit the story of his past is heartbreakingly sad.
He doesn’t answer this positively, btw. This was when I still had hope that this would be an unique experience.
The promise was not to go into the room housing his wife.
From the second ending. That much was obvious, but it’s good to see him admit it. And that, my friends, is that. Time to wash my hands of this.
What do you guys think of that scene? Agree? Disagree? These reviews are my opinions, after all, I’m not trying to speak as an authority for it. You’re welcome to your own opinion and I enjoy hearing other sides of things. And again, thanks to Annette for the walkthroughs that enabled me to complete this in a timely manner.
OZMAFIA!! is available at MangaGamer directly or through Steam.
Other OZMAFIA!! Reviews:
Caramia
Kyrie
Axel
Pashet
Scarlet
Hamelin
Manboy, Dorian Gray, Alfani
Robin Hood
Caesar
Soh
Final Game Review
The worst route in this game hands down xd He is like: Since you love I might as well be with you xd meanwhile he just blabs with his wife on and on while the poor woman just wants to die already xD
I agree!
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Ugh, I have a lot of mixed feelings about Robin.
Out of all the routes, I found his to be the most engaging and interesting for me, particularly because I usually deviate towards the dark and twisted characters. Out of all the characters in the game, he’s the only one with a somewhat fleshed out backstory and has an interesting character arc. As much as I loved Caramia and Kyrie to bits, neither of them have too much of a story beyond the iconic novel they’re based off of. And in the “happy” ending it at least seems to imply that Robin is slowly heading towards a path of recovery?
Also, I just really dig his design. I love the plague doctor look they gave him. And his silky, cool voice. . . Mm. 🙂
Another really awesome thing? This is the ONLY route that Fuka learns how to function independently outside the Oz estate. Even if he’s a giant dick, Robin at least respects Fuka enough to let her do work and even praises her for efforts and hard work.
I also really enjoyed the extra scenes where he’s talking to his wife. I found them to be a very intimate look at his thoughts and feelings regarding certain events that we would’ve otherwise never known about, since he’s such a closed off and secretive character. And I loved his growing conflict over his feelings for Fuka.
But then there’s a lot of bad things that happen in this route that really ruin the experience. The drug scene was disgusting. Fuka was sexually attracted to him and would have been a willing participant if he’d just asked; why use a drug to force it? And worse yet, the extra where Robin is musing that she fell asleep and that the drug worked too well casts doubt on whether she was even conscious during the act. UGHH just no. I hated that bit so much.
Like you, I didn’t really get why Robin was so obstinate about just loving this woman his whole life and nothing else ( but then I’m a huge advocate for polyamory, so what would I know? lol ). I think the funeral scene was supposed to be beautiful and symbolic of him moving past his first love, but then it’s ruined by him immediately coming on to Fuka after the funeral. It would’ve been fine if we had fast forwarded to a couple of weeks in the future or something!
The bad ending is just. . . what the fuck is that? lol So he just uses Fuka as a means to an end to get back at Hamelin. He outright tells Fuka she means nothing to him and he’ll never love her and she’s.. . . FINE WITH IT??? And still wants him anyways?? And decides to spend the rest of her days pining away for him at his clinic despite what he’s done to her. And she’s all excited when he comes back to the clinic, even Robin himself is like “uh dude why are you here? did you forget what a shitty person I am or something?”
This COULD have been extremely romantic if they had done a hurt/comfort route. All the pieces for a good love story were right there. Instead, I feel like the writer may have been overwhelmed with the various sub plots of the game and written themselves in a corner or something.
Overall, the biggest fault in this route is inconsistent writing and characterization. But that’s a problem for the game as a whole.
PS: What the hell did Robin have to do with the folktale Robin Hood, aside from his clinic being called Sherwood Clinic? o_O
Ugh, I have a lot of mixed feelings about Robin.
Out of all the routes, I found his to be the most engaging and interesting for me, particularly because I usually deviate towards the dark and twisted characters. Out of all the characters in the game, he’s the only one with a somewhat fleshed out backstory and has an interesting character arc. As much as I loved Caramia and Kyrie to bits, neither of them have too much of a story beyond the iconic novel they’re based off of. And in the “happy” ending it at least seems to imply that Robin is slowly heading towards a path of recovery?
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Also, I just really dig his design. I love the plague doctor look they gave him. And his silky, cool voice. . . Mm. 🙂 Another really awesome thing? This is the ONLY route that Fuka learns how to function independently outside the Oz estate. Even if he’s a giant dick, Robin at least respects Fuka enough to let her do work and even praises her for efforts and hard work.
I don’t know why either. Maybe the universe can’t handle us having a thorough discussion on this anime bishi?
C ontinued….
I also really enjoyed the extra scenes where he’s talking to his wife. I found them to be a very intimate look at his thoughts and feelings regarding certain events that we would’ve otherwise never known about, since he’s such a closed off and secretive character. And I loved his growing conflict over his feelings for Fuka.
But then there’s a lot of bad things that happen in this route that really ruin the experience. The drug scene was disgusting. Fuka was sexually attracted to him and would have been a willing participant if he’d just asked; why use a drug to force it? And worse yet, the extra where Robin is musing that she fell asleep and that the drug worked too well casts doubt on whether she was even conscious during the act. UGHH just no. I hated that bit so much.
ike you, I didn’t really get why Robin was so obstinate about just loving this woman his whole life and nothing else ( but then I’m a huge advocate for polyamory, so what would I know? lol ). I think the funeral scene was supposed to be beautiful and symbolic of him moving past his first love, but then it’s ruined by him immediately coming on to Fuka after the funeral. It would’ve been fine if we had fast forwarded to a couple of weeks in the future or something!
The bad ending is just. . . what the fuck is that? lol So he just uses Fuka as a means to an end to get back at Hamelin. He outright tells Fuka she means nothing to him and he’ll never love her and she’s.. . . FINE WITH IT??? And still wants him anyways?? And decides to spend the rest of her days pining away for him at his clinic despite what he’s done to her. And she’s all excited when he comes back to the clinic, even Robin himself is like “uh dude why are you here? did you forget what a shitty person I am or something?”
This COULD have been extremely romantic if they had done a hurt/comfort route. All the pieces for a good love story were right there. Instead, I feel like the writer may have been overwhelmed with the various sub plots of the game and written themselves in a corner or something. Overall, the biggest fault in this route is inconsistent writing and characterization. But that’s a problem for the game as a whole.
PS: What the hell did Robin have to do with the folktale Robin Hood, aside from his clinic being called Sherwood Clinic? o_O
“Overall, the biggest fault in this route is inconsistent writing and characterization. But that’s a problem for the game as a whole.”
I agree with this *so* much.
Actually, about THAT particular scene, I just thought — maybe he drugged her because her being knocked out would be more like the way his wife is/was? Whooaaaa boy. @_____________@;;;; I already had the evil thought of “Does he jerk off to her at night in the coffin?” before that, so, I mean, that does make sense why he’d be okay with her being knocked out errrrrrrrrrr >>;;;;
I’m not sure why the writer felt the need to drum up drama for him. He’s already full of drama by having his wife die in the most traumatic way possible.
I’m not really conflicted as much as you about him because that scene pretty much ruined him in my heart, and the bad ending put the final nail in the coffin. I felt horrible after reading him. I do agree that they had all the ingredients for a great love story that they err, ruined with some really really weird/bad plot choices. I think if they played him straight it would have been a great tear-jerker type of story. Maybe they thought Soh and Robin would be one too many of that type? idk
But speaking of twisted characters, I did like Hamelin a lot. As short as it was, I felt like they did the twisted love thing well and Fuka’s innocence ended up working out without feeling too creepy.
Yep. Yep and yep. My husband is Japanese. I ask him all the time “What is up with your peoples???” and he says he does’t know.
Seriously? Doc ROOFIES her… and essentially RAPES her. Yeah, dang straight I said the R word… I also noticed the ‘Extra backstory on second playthrough’ thing – and I re-read this… she doesn’t actually give consent, does she? He just comes in, says “here, take this” and suddenly… she’s awake and with marks.
I remember sitting stock still after that line… and thinking “oh … oh no they di’nt… OH NO they di’nt!!” I think i needed to shower after playing that route.